Learning adult violin: myths, patience and orchestras
The violin has a name as impossible if you haven't started as a child. It's not. We tell you what myth, what patience wants and how to get to play with others in an amateurs' orchestra.
If you can learn adult violin. What you can't do with patience: violin takes more than other tools to sound good, because sound depends on the bow and tuning depends on your ear. With good guidance, nearly daily practice and good expectations, an adult can enjoy and even play with an amateurs orchestra.
In this guide we separate the myths from reality, explain how to handle the first months of cheesy sound and what you need to play with others.
To sum up
- To start as an adult doesn't stop you from sound good: she's asking for patience and a well built technique from the start.
- The rag sound of the first few months is normal and better with long arcs, air ropes and listening with care.
- A mantle and a mintimater adjusted to your body avoid tension to your neck and shoulders.
- A practice satico allows you to study at an apartment without interfering.
- There are orchestras and amateurs and you have to read, count and play with first place.
Myths about violin and age
| Mito | Realidad |
|---|---|
| "If you didn't start as a child, you're never gonna sound good." | The children have an advantage in time and flexibility but a constant adult gets a good sound and enjoys an extensive repertoire. |
| "That's an absolute ear." | Most musicians have no. They need relative listening and they train with practice. |
| "We have to practice hours every day." | A half an hour about daily, focused, allows for real progress. |
| "A grown man's fingers are no longer responding." | They become agile with progressive exercises. The key is to avoid forcing and avoiding tension. |
| "The violin's only for classical music." | He plays in tango, Celtic music, jazz, pop, soundtrack and Latin American music. |
| "You need a really bad violin." | A well-tipped studio violin by a luthier is enough to start with. |
The sound of the first months: well-directed patience
At the piano, the note sounds good if you press the right key. At the violin, the sound depends on three things at once: the weight of the arch, its velocity and the point where the string plays, between the bridge and the diapason. If one fails, the famous squeal appears. That's why the first few months sound bad, even as you do most good.
The good news is that patience can be directed:
- Long Arks with an air string: A few minutes a day, looking for an equal sound from his end to his heel.
- Mirror: check that the arch goes parallel to the bridge.
- Weekly recordings: Your ear gets better before your hands, and the recordings show you advances that at the moment you don't notice.
- Filling as a support, and not as a crutch: Use it to check, but try listening first.
- Guide tapes at the diapason: Many teachers use them at first to place their fingers and remove them after their ears have been taken care of.
To sharpen the strings at the start of practice, you can use the [online violin tuner]](/herramientas/afinador/violin)And as the arch grip deserves his own attention, check how to hold the violin's bow.
A violin adjusted to your body
A grown man arrives with years of posture habits, sometimes with neck or back problems by work with his computer. The violin holds between his jaw and shoulder, so the adjustment matters:
- Log: his height depends on your neck's length. If you have to lower your head or put your shoulder up to hold the violin, it's bad tipped.
- Mentonera: there are different models and the right one will let you support your chin without tightening.
- Size: Most adults wear violin 4 / 4 and some people with short arms or small hands feel better with a 7 / 8.
- Left thumb loose: Don't tighten the mast as if it's going to fall.
Do shortcuts every time and gently shake arms and shoulders. If you have an injury to your neck or shoulder, check with your doctor before you start and tell his doctor about it. Some adults, for comfort or for pleasure, end up choosing viola and we tell you about the differences in [violin or viola].](/blog/violin-o-viola-diferencias).
To practice in an apartment without cackling his neighbours
The violin's listening to a great deal, and in a building that can end up as a theme for co-owners' assembly.
- Section of practice: from rubber or metal, put onto the bridge and greatly reduce the volume. Use it for scales and exercises, and not for everything, because it changes the instrument's response.
- Reasonable hours: agree with your neighborhood fringes to practice without satiga.
- Electrical or silent violin: It allows to study with hearing aids, useful if you practice at night, though the sensation under the arch is different.
- Curtains and cover: They get something from the sound and they get better how you listen to yourself in the room.
Amphibious adult orchestras and assemblies
To play as a group is one of the great rewards of violin. In Colombia there are orchestras of amateurs at universities, cultural outreach programs, churches and independent communities, as well as camera groups that are built up with friends. Some have an audition and some have an audience and some have an audience with a few who read and play with certainty.
What do you need to get in?
- Read score with reasonable fluidity.
- Play with first place and tuning your instrument with no help.
- Counting silent jobs without missing.
- Keep a stable tempo, something that trains with the [metronome]](/herramientas/metronomo).
Ask your teacher to prepare you with simple orchestral fragments and first-glance reading exercises. Many adults come in as second violins, where the part usually gets less acute and more accessible. Playing with others usually greatly improves tuning and sense of rhythm.
A Realist Plan for First Year
- Stage 1: posture, bow grip, air ropes and sound alike.
- Stage 2: first fingers of his left hand, simple scales and short songs.
- Stage 3: first reading, more agile string changes and first accompanying pieces.
- Stage 4: initial level repertoire, dynamic work and perhaps your first assembly.
Each person goes through these phases at his or her best and for an idea of terms, read how long it takes to learn violinWhat's repeated in all cases: a teacher who fixes his posture from the first day prevents months of unlearning. [violin classes]](/clases/violin) can be at home or virtual, depending on how you get comfortable.
Frequently asked questions
Is it late to learn violin at 30, 40 or 50?
No. To start as an adult requires more patience with sound than other instruments but with constant practice you can play a beautiful repertoire and even join an amateurs group.
What size of violin does an adult require?
Almost always a 4 / 4, full size. If you have short arms or small hands, have a 7 / 8 as well. Your teacher can measure the length of your extended arm to confirm.
Can you learn violin in virtual classes?
Yes, especially when you have a base. In the first classes, where posture and arch grip are critical, it's key that the camera show your complete profile and arch. Some people start at home and then move to virtual.
How much do I have to practice violin a day as an adult?
Between 20 and 40 minutes most of the day is a good base. Divide the time between sound with an air string and a left-hand and repertoire with pauses to rest his neck and his shoulders.
